Posts by Lost in the fog

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The older I get the more angry I become!

by Sour Grapes in

i did some self-reflection today trying to determine why, with every passing day, i become angrier against the watchtower company.

i am in my 70's and my health is failing.

at first, i thought it was because "worldly" people couldn't care less about jdubs and the little world they live in even though the witlesses think that the earth revolves around them and their desert god who was originally worshipped by the cainites.

Lost in the fog

Hi Sour Grapes and Others.

I am in the process of fading and I do find it difficult not to be angry at all of the time I have wasted. I am almost 60 and in very poor health, without the safety net of a lifetime of savings.

I have to curtail my anger otherwise I would take it out on my wife who is largely PIMI although some things do niggle her.

But along with the anger at the new organisation I also feel a void and an emptiness as I am a spiritual person inside but for now am unsure in which direction to turn. Sometimes I get angry at myself for not catching on to TTATT sooner. But that only leads me to anxiety and depression, which I have had therapy for in the past.

I just feel a great sadness reading through all your posts, and whilst I see that I am not alone in my feelings, I struggle with channelling my feelings in a positive way to improve my mood.

Love to you all.

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Dating as a Jehovahs witness has made me PIMO

by Addison0998 in

hey, i would like to share my experience, it is kind of long but i really appreciate whoever reads.

last year i was a devout pioneer sister.

well, i am naturally an imperfect 20 year old women.

Lost in the fog

If two are dating and are so much at risk of making mad passionate love that the elders insist a third person must be present as a chaperone doesn't that just open up the possibility of having a threesome?

Wonder if that has ever been the outcome?

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Dating as a Jehovahs witness has made me PIMO

by Addison0998 in

hey, i would like to share my experience, it is kind of long but i really appreciate whoever reads.

last year i was a devout pioneer sister.

well, i am naturally an imperfect 20 year old women.

Lost in the fog

Do you know a funny thing about elders insisting that single people who are dating be chaperoned? They have no problem if a single brother collects a car load of sisters to take them out in the ministry or to the Kingdom Hall, even though as he drops them back home he might eventually find himself alone in his car with a single sister.

But if the 2 started dating, suddenly a 3rd person is required to be there with the two of them. Isn't that crazy!?

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Older publications.

by Lost in the fog in

it's amazing what you can stumble upon on the internet these days.

i just came across this site.

maybe you already knew about it, but i did not.

Lost in the fog

It's amazing what you can stumble upon on the Internet these days. I just came across this site. Maybe you already knew about it, but I did not.

http://www.a2z.org/wtarchive/archive.htm

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Loosing your Privleges and Scumbag elders

by Addison0998 in

so 9 months before i started pioneering, i had a hot and heavy moment with this player witness who was just trying to string me along and talked to a lot of different girls.

we made out and he grabbed my goodies a few times you know the regular stuff all teens do at least once.

anyways i never saw him again because when i refused to send him nudes he dropped me.

Lost in the fog

The bother about moving out to another congregation is that elders will likely still talk about you to their friends in the circuit regardless of what they officially say in the introduction letter. I know this for a fact, it happened several times when I was an elder in the old days.

"So you have sister so and so move to your hall. You need to keep an eye on her. Especially around the boys. No, no I'm not telling tales out of school... but I wouldn't be happy to let my lad out with her and he's 26! Blah, blah blah blah."

Seen it too many times. Even know the blabbers in the current boe which is why I keep a much lower profile since I started to fade myself. Even to voice an opinion in a friendly conversation to an elder brother and Wham two of the blighters turn up to counsel you.

It is a cult. You have my condolences for the way you have been treated, but it will not get any better.

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Christ's sacrifice

by dogisgod in

so, i am having lunch with a group of women with varying backgrounds.

i asked the circle how many believed in the story of adam and eve and the snake.

no one believed it literally.

Lost in the fog

Never understood why God cursed the literal snake to crawl on its belly in the dust if He really knew that (refer to the Book of Revelation) it wasn't the snake but the apostate angel - the Devil.

Which makes me think that Genesis was concocted by Moses who didn't know the truth about the start of things and pinched bits from earlier Egyptian creation myths and the other stories of his day. 🤔🙄

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Secret Societies involved at the very top of the Org

by Formerbrother in

are all the gb members past and present, part of skulls and bones and other masonic secret societies?

we know the first few top brass were, like br rutherford and br russel.. they all have several expensive watches.

like literally more than one for everyday of the week, rolex and omega, where did they come from?

Lost in the fog

Going back to the question of expensive Rolex watches and gold bling for a moment - - - how can you square it up with their alleged Vow of Poverty and Obedience?

Quote : W17, April, pages 3-8, paragraph 19. "Currently, there are some 67,000 members of the Worldwide Order of Special Full-Time Servants of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Some perform Bethel service, others engage in construction or in circuit work, serve as field instructors or special pioneers or missionaries or as Assembly Hall or Bible school facility servants. They are all bound by a “Vow of Obedience and Poverty,” with which they agree to do whatever is assigned to them in the advancement of Kingdom interests, to live a simple lifestyle, and to abstain from secular employment without permission. It is not the people but their assignments that are viewed as special. They realize the seriousness of humbly living up to their solemn vow for as long as they remain in special full-time service."

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GDPR Query

by Lost in the fog in

i know that there's been a lot posted about this already but i wanted to ask if anyone knew if the wts was in breach of the information commissioner's office (uk) directive or am i misunderstanding something.

the ioc give a list of requirements with regards to charities and in part it says .

that consent is not a precondition for the service provided.

Lost in the fog

I know that there's been a lot posted about this already but I wanted to ask if anyone knew if the WTS was in breach of the information commissioner's office (UK) directive or am I misunderstanding something.

The IOC give a list of requirements with regards to charities and in part it says

that consent is not a precondition for the service provided.

The WTS in their instructions to the elders say that not giving consent means

that the congregation will not be able to evaluate the person's suitability for certain activities; and it also excludes them from being recorded in congregation meetings.

Does this contradict the IOC or not?

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GDPR: Get your data from the UK Branch now, before 25-May-2018

by Fay Dehr in

get your data from the uk branch now, before gdpr kicks in on 25-may-2018.

use this free template letter, which has been tried and tested.

under uk law they can (and will) delay their reply if you miss out any of the important points in the template letter - for example they are allowed to ask for "costs" from you (£10 is an established fee in the data industry), or if you fail to prove your identity by means of passport or driver's license.

Lost in the fog

Fey Dehr,

If the ico details are being held by the IBSA, why does the pro-forma you provide not go to them?

I get confused by all the organisations within the Society's organisation.

Can you advise please?

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You MUST Sign the Data Collection Form "...obey...whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.¨"

by gone for good in

the many and complex issues surrounding the collection of person data and new laws aiming to protect individuals control of their own privacy, seem to have hatched about the same time as the governing body expressed their hope that it´s own 8 million would obey their order to "sign this form" effectively transfering total authority over privacy and data issues over to the borg.. what are your thoughts on this coincidence?.

zuckerberg lost billion$$ when people realized that he had prostituted their personal data and now wt wants the same signed access that he had to info that is $$$.... wt already owns all the real estate and now wants to own all the data.... it´s a current and global issue - please share your thought with the rest of us here.. .

Lost in the fog

But what about the prohibition on answering up where the meetings are streamed, wouldn't that mean any PIMOs would be silenced and stopped from saying anything? Isn't that almost like outing them publicly to the rest of the congregation?